Saturday, February 24, 2007

Homosexuality in Asia III--Current Trends and Gay Korea Column...同志亞洲系列(三 )--現在的趨勢和同志韓国...ゲイアジア(3)--いまのトレンドとゲイ韓国

Post Three of the Gay Trilogy......the Finale....

This post attempts to give a broad overview of the status of gay and lesbians in Asia currently. I would say that in East Asia and South East Asia, the climate of social acceptance towards homosexuality has increased greatly in recent yrs and especially for young gays and lesbians (below 30) living in countries ranging from China to Indonesia, there is no longer self hatred or self-denial. There are of cos still many whom struggle with their sexual preferences but it can safely be said that the vast majority of under 30 young Asians no longer feel the dilemma and readily accept their homosexual identities.
For those above 30, its still a mixed bag with some still trying to become straight, some whom under previous conservative environments were in denial have now readily embraced the gay lifestyle due to progress in social acceptance, and those whom are in the closet and married whom nevertheless engage in extra-marital sex with men on the side. (y i discourage gay men trying to 'turn bck' straight cos it never works and in the end they marry women 'trying' to change and end up messing up women's life and chance for love.)
I was very surprised when i first came into contact with homosexuality in terms of really delving into what its all about (not the one-dimensional understanding which many ppl have) and found that gay teens nowadays start dating men/women very early like 14,15,16....dating members of the same sex is widespread and normal for many young gay Asians nowadays and most don't feel the need to 'change their sexual orientation'...also many young gay Asians have their own network of gay friends and the picture is vastly different from how it was a mere decade ago when most gay Asians were isolated and lonely. I mean i still subscribed to that outdated thinking a few yrs ago due to my lack of understanding of gays. It is quite clear that images of lonely suicidal homosexuals is quite outdated now and should be replaced with gays whom have lots of gay and straight friends, whom date (and have sex with) same sex people without any feelings of guilt, and basically lead their lives unmarked by self-loathing or feeling weird about their feelings towards the same sex. You'd be surprised how many gay couples live together in the same house across Asia nowadays...how times have changed since the pre-internet days of the early 90s...
So for those of you whom still stick to the idea that gay and lesbian Asians are secluded, isolated, have random sex without much normal dating relationships, well...think again.

Media and Tourism: The media plays a powerful role in influencing gay and lesbian perceptions of certain countries and i can give two examples. For instance, the host of gay-themed movies and tv series coming out from Taiwan as well as well reported gay pride parade which is attended and funded by the Taipei City Mayor and Taipei City Council has, in my opinion, helped to increase significantly tourism to Taiwan by gay and lesbian travellers. I already know like 3 gay bloggers whom visited Taiwan last yr and another gay blogger intending to go this year. I believe the perception that Taiwan is gay-friendly from the annual gay pride as well as Taiwanese media plays an important role in influencing them to visit Taiwan.
The same for Korea. Korean dramas are quite popular amongst many gay male Asians obviously for the same reasons they are popular with the women: cute guys, romantic, willing to do anything for you,etc,etc. The series 'Gung' (Palace) has quite a strong fan following amongst gay Chinese men i think. And the desirability of Korean men has shot up since the Korean Wave swept thru Asia. This can be evidenced by one simple example amongst others i have. There's a gay japanese friendship site for foreigners whom like japanese men and about a year ago they added a special 'korean gay men' section indicating the popularity of korean men amongst Asian gay men. Thats the power of the media for you!
An alley in Tokyo's Gay District, Shinjuku Ni-Chome. The area has around 200 gay establishments ranging from gay clubs, bars and saunas to host clubs. All the bright signboards visible are gay establishments. This photo was taken during my exchange in Tokyo in 2005.

'Boys Love'
Title of a boy's love book 'Hey....I really like you..'



The trend of boy's love novels and pc games has become more and more lurid and adult with more emphasis on man-on-man sex as can be gleaned from the above pix.




Often the stories in 'boys love' involves the dominant male and the recessive male whom gets penetrated. In effect, you could say the recessive male is merely a symbol of women as the storyline mirrors straight adult manga with the recessive male always seen as being dominated, unwilling to have sex and in pain at being penetrated.






I think its a 'boys love' pc game....

Now, many of you are probably wondering what the heck is 'boys love'???! Well, its a genre of gay male-male love comics and pc games in Japan which cater to teenage girls and women...yes, u heard me correctly, targeting TEENAGE GIRLS AND WOMEN NOT GAY MEN. Its ironic why women would want to read these kind of male-male love (and plenty of gay sex too!) novels and comics...but well u know Japan has alot of kinky and weird trends....

Of cos, these 'boys love' novels,etc have also found a following amongst some gay Asian men overseas as well....

I didn't know about this kind of books until i went to Japan in 2005 and stayed there for about 4 months...i mean before i went i had gone bck to Taiwan for a visit and did see translated versions in a well-known bookstore and found it interesting that it was a gay romance novel but i didn't think too much and thought it wasn't a popular thing....

But when i arrived in Japan, i noticed to my surprise that 'boys love' is VERY POPULAR in Japan (well at least in Tokyo and at least in 2005)...i was introduced by a female friend of mine from HK (its popular in Hong Kong amongst girls as well i heard) and i read thru the mags she had which is where i took the above lurid photos of the male-male love scenes. I actually made it a point to search for these boys love comics and novels whenever i entered a bookstore and i would say can be found in over 70% of bookstores and all major bookstores.

They are not what a western or non-japanese asian would presume to be only found in gay bookstores as i've said already they target straight women readers and not gay ones.

They are advertised prominently and there is no reaction from normal readers as to why gay themed stories are sold and displayed in bookstores.


One anecdote from me, once i was reading this straight male adult comic as i was curious(their stories involve women being raped, molested, horny housewives, horny schoolgirls whom masturbate..u get the picture *rolls eyes*) and this mother with schoolchildren was standing beside me perusing one of the boys love comics!!! Imagine that happening in Australia, an aussie mom reading a gay comic..haha...well, its normal in Japan i guess...

I can understand why its popular with women cos i think its something unique and taboo and dun we all love something forbidden? Also, for me at least, its a reaction against the tons of straight male adult comics and novels which portray women as sexual horny objects ready to be penetrated whereas in boys love, women can enjoy men as sexual horny objects penetrated in all kinds of way by other men! (Another reason y i think gay porn should stay given that it really mirrors straight porn, only that men are now the ones sexually tortured, humiliated and penetrated by many other men in ALL kinds of possible conceivable ways...if women are portrayed in such a way in straight male porn, which kinda pisses me off, why not men?



For those living in Sydney, 'boys love' can obtained (to my utmost surprise!) at Kinokuniya Bookstores manga section...i was just looking thru the manga section once and came across it....there's quite a selection with the emphasis being male-male romance...go check it out if u r interested in exactly what boys love is all about...:):)


Gay Korea Column:

This column started out as a place to fill the gap in the lack of knowledge regarding gay Korea and given my dual areas of interest being Korea and homosexual issues. I think unlike in China and Japan, its much more difficult for Korean society to accept homosexuality due to the dual C. Thats my theory, homosexuality faces two obstacles in Korea being the CC (not sissy lar!!)...being Confucianism and Christianity. Korea is the most confucius-based and christian society in Asia...both of which are not known for being friendly towards homosexualism.

However with that said, great leaps have been made in the past 2 yrs i would say in terms of korean tolerance of homosexualism, at least in the media and the korean audiences willingness to accept it on film and tv.


Korean Variety:

I recently started watching korean gameshows (popular in China and thus many chinese subtitled ones for download floating around online) and really like them...i noticed to my HUGE amazement the amount of gay content they have....i thought korean tv was supposed to be conservative! well...not if u've seen 'X-Man' when they were in Indonesia and Japan and they created this 'romance' between one celebrity and another one...the guy was like 'u've changed'...'i treat u like a man' OMG!!! usually they do this with a guy-girl celebrity but this time they included a guy-guy thing too....then theres 'Love Letter' ...in the past they paired up male-female celebrities to play obstacles but now, at least last yr, they also had male-male celebrity couples and they still put a heart on screen b/w the two men....this is a direct reference to a same-sex couple (altho its all for game show purposes and everyone knows that both the male-male couple and male-female couple celebs aren't for real) and it really wasn't necessary unless they thought korean audiences now liked the idea, even if just for fun, of male-male relationships...

Then there was HeyHeyHey, where in November last year, there was a five part shortstory called 'Roommate'. HeyHeyHey is an extremely popular skit show where they get celebrities to act out short segments....what was unique about 'Roommate' was that it went on for 5 episodes consisting of 10 min segments when the usual story is only 1-2 episodes and it was actually romantic and quite serious as opposed to all the other stories which are just pure laughter.

'Roommate' was so popular amongst some Korean netizens that they asked for more and a 'Special Roommate Behind-the-Scenes' was screened after it ended....

The story is basically this cute hunky 20 something guy is the roommate of this closet gay korean in his 30s. He secretly is in love with his roommate (hence the name of the title) but can't say it out cos his roommate is straight. The scenes were so funny and sad at times that i didn't know whether to laugh or cry!

A funny scene was when the hunk is exercising is biceps (u should have seen his muscular well-toned body and that chest...ooooo) and the gay roommate starts drooling out water..hahaha...then that sexy scene when the hunk asks his 'hyeong' (korean term for a guy towards an older male friend...it almost seemed like a romantic term in this context!) to shave for him....and he's TOPLESS....sooooo sexy man...:)


And there was a GAY KISS scene on Korean TV..and this is in a comedy show too!!! Its when the hunk gets drunk cos he fell in love with a woman and u see the sad face on his gay hyeong...awwww...then he force-kiss his hyeong cos he mistakens him for the girl...they zoomed in on the kiss and you could see that the two actors kissed lip on lip for real....OMG!!!! They could have faked it using 'angle shots' but they insisted on the real kiss...

You could tell that the korean media and audiences had changed in their perception of homosexuality as they didn't even think for once that showing a gay story WITH a gay kiss scene would create some kind of backlash, if anything, roommate proved extremely popular.

They also portrayed the gay romance in a very sensitive way and realistically portrayed the pain a gay man goes thru when he falls for a straight man...and further, the host later said she at first thought what kind of romance can happen between two grown men but later was touched by the story thus in a way promoting an acceptance from audiences too....

Korean Drama:


Thats not all!!!...Korean dramas, known for their conservatism, have also included bits of homosexual characters and sub stories.....i was watching this drama called 'Foxy Lady' and in the very first episode, the main character's 10 year secret love for her university senior, the only man whom she has loved truly for so long, comes crashing down as she realises that although he divorced his wife recently (at this point she was kinda happy cos she has a chance now)...he is gay! I was abit surprised the producers included this in the script....at first the guy says he has never loved his wife and i was thinking 'oh....maybe its cos his parents forced him to marry her'..then he says 'i've never had feelings for any woman.....but i've had feelings for men'....

and this ends the first episode...again it was portrayed in a sympathetic light with the main character saying she'll keep his secret and cursing the ex-wife for going around telling everyone he's gay...no negative comments about homosexuality such as 'why are u gay?...its sick'....

After the above, my impression of Korean media and society in terms of acceptance of homosexuality took a 180 degree change....i mean i was shocked that a society and a media which i had always assumed to be super homophobic was changing fast to the extent that they could show a gay kiss on tv and include gay themes in dramas watched by housewives and elderly grandmothers....cholma shockin e yo!




Korean Movies:

In 2006, there was a host of Korean films with a gay theme....gay themed films have become popular after the huge success of ' The King and the Clown' (a low budget Chosun dynasty tale about the love triangle between three men, two clowns and the evil sadistic King) which became the top grossing film in the entire cinematic history of Korea, surpassing 'such blockbuster hits as 'Taegukki' and 'Shiri'. (Its now become the 2nd top grossing film in Korea in all-time).



'If You Were Me' series by the Korean National Human Rights Commission:


I absolutely love this unique series which focuses on discrimination themes in Korean society with each film consisting of 4-5 stories, all of which are directed by some famous korean commercial director such as jang jin and park chan-wook. In 'If ' 2 and 'If' 3 there are segments on homophobia. In the second instalment, there' s a segment on korean masculinity with an inclusion of a gay theme too where one of the best friends is gay....then in 'If' 3 which i haven't been able to see yet, there is one segment exclusively on homophobia whereby 2 boys at a boys school are bullied as everyone thinks they're a gay couple.....a must watch series for an introduction of the social discrimination issues faced by modern Korea today....


No Regrets (2006):
Review from Darcy's Korean Film Page:
With the critical praise for his shorts "Sugar Hill" and "Good Romance" and with No Regrets being the first South Korean feature directed by an out Gay Korean, one can say that there was a lot of pressure on Leesong Hee-il regarding his debut feature. Regardless of whether he felt this pressure himself, Leesong has lived up to the challenge providing an engaging story, equal parts melodrama, social commentary, comedy, and treatise on hope for us all.

Su-min, an orphan who, since he is unable to pay for university, must leave the orphanage at 18. (Leesong's research for this film led him to find that this requirement leads many orphans, male and female, to end up in factories and hostess/host bars in Seoul at 18. "Some days, I feel like I might like to shoot an orphanage story," he says) Su-min heads to Seoul to work various jobs in order to pay for computer classes and later university. An ethical stance on Su-min's part results in his losing his factory job. (Such a morally upstanding gesture along with Lee's beauty endears him early on with the audience. This also provides a nice expose on class in Queer communities, adding layers to the 'hostess bar' genre in South Korean cinema that Leesong redefines here.) Hit hard on financial times, Su-min ends up taking a job at a host bar. The boss (they call him 'Madame') of this host bar is reluctant to bring on Su-min since experience has shown him that gay-identified hosts will often leave once they become romantically involved with one of their clients. Su-min is at a point in his life where he's given up on love, so he believes this won't happen to him, until a man from his past enters the host bar and life gets messier, more beautiful, and messier again. But for those who have had enough of the self-loathing and tragedy demanded in some films with sexual minority plots and subplots, hold on. At the risk of revealing the ending, let me just say don't worry. As much as I have problems with the narrative flow near the ending, at least No Regrets is not going where we are initially led to believe it is.
One of the best aspects of this film is how we aren't provided the obligatory caricatures of Gay 'types' on prime-time sitcoms in the United States. Su-min is a well-rounded character and I love his refusal to answer questions he doesn't feel people have the right to ask. Each character has a depth that allows each to be more than simply the queen, the naive waif, the self-denier, etc. Refusing to follow the path towards Queer liberation espoused by sitcoms, No Regrets is freed to provide some refreshingly, rip-roaring hilarious moments.


The banter provided by Madame and one of Su-min's co-workers would have had the audience at the 11th PIFF rolling on the floor with laughter had there been room on the floor of the packed house. Many of the jokes are specific to a Korean audience, (no one was able to explain to me what was meant by the crowd-pleasing 'You look like the dick on Shilim Avenue' slam of the country bumpkin), but there is enough context here and quality acting and directing to ascertain what commentary witty retorts such as 'Wheat-floured face' are intended to impart.

But still, the joy of my experience with No Regrets was obviously enhanced by the crowd and their positive reactions to what they were watching. I almost missed this film, but thankfully ran into Italian film critic (and Koreanfilm.org contributor) Paolo Bertolin in the maze of streets in Haeundae that confound one's sense of cardinal directions. He insisted I get a standing-room ticket for the sold-out show. So I did just that and was one of the lucky standing-room-ers who was able to snag a seat from the late ticket holders. (PIFF is notorious for its strict time schedules. ) Just before the film began I looked to see that every seat was occupied, every step in the theatre appropriated as a seat, and still more people were lined up along the walls anxious to see this film.
Commenting on the particularities of Queerness in South Korea would take a dissertation that space here will not allow. Until I stumble on such a Ph.D., how 'bout a master's thesis instead? Matty Wegehaupt's master thesis "Hong Seok-cheon - Keoming Aut in South Korea" details the cultural nuances around the South Korean TV actor's public coming out in 2002 that was immediately followed by his dismissal from the station that employed him. Such actions might lend support to a view that South Korea is a "conservative" country when it comes to sexual minorities. But just as Bruce Cumings argues in Korea's Place in the Sun that the adjectives of "liberal" and "conservative" as used in the U.S. are not fully transferable to a Korean context, Wegehaupt questions whether one can really call a country 'conservative' where the labor union rushed to the defense of their openly Gay colleague? And this defense was not due to 'Western Liberalization' but to something organic in South Korean culture. In fact, as Wegehaupt would later elaborate for me in an email, "While it may be the perspective of a minority, within Korean cultural mores there exist the means to freely accept and support the new phenomenon of public homosexual identities." Perhaps nothing supports Wegehaupt's claim more than the packed crowd that came to watch No Regrets. And perhaps nothing supports Leesong's film of hope more than the smiles on the faces of many of us who watched this ground-breaking film, smiles shared on the faces of Su-min and Jae-min (Lee Han) as they survive the tragedy that surrounds them, reminding us that until we can live honestly with ourselves in all countries, such tragedy surrounds us all. (
Adam Hartzell)

The above is a review of the first mainstream Korean gay-themed film to be released in Korea. Previous films such as 'The King and the Clown' and 'Bungee Jumping on their Own' have only heavily hinted but never expressly come out and portrayed the relationship of their protagonist as a gay one.
Articles relating to Gay and Lesbian topics in the Korean Media:

Gay Sex Transmitting Most Korean AIDS Chosun Ilbo Oct 2002
National Institute of Health announced Thursday the results of an study of 269 people infected with AIDS, which showed that one person in Korea is infected with the AIDS virus a day, most of which are gay men. For women, more than two thirds of the cases came from sex with an infected partner. One or two people a year were infected through encounters with prostitutes.
Half of women who were infected through sexual intercourse with a Korean man were of blood type B, but 98 percent of men who were infected through intercourse with a Korean woman had a blood type of B.
If people with AIDS were infected from normal intercourse between men and women, the percentage of blood type B should be similar. But the test result showed a difference nearly two times the number.
The difference is attributed to homosexual relationships. Ninty-eight percent of those infected through homosexual love were with blood type B.
Doctor Lee Jong-gu at the NIH said that in many cases, men infected by homosexual sex lied to their wives, saying that they got the virus from sex with women.
The NIH concluded that AIDS has been spreading through homosexual relationships, and no one was infected through sexual intercourse with women, according to the investigation.
Estimating that more than half of the men with the AIDS virus contracted it through homosexual relationships, the NIH said it has decided to install 18,000 condom machines at such places as gay bars over the next year. (Park Jung-hyeon,
jhpark@chosun.com )


Gay Lifestyles Conquer Media Mainstream Chosun Ilbo August 23 2005


Two handsome men in their 20s are sitting at a table face to face. A caption reading ※same-sex couple§ runs across the screen. The two feel each other*s hair, asking ※Did you have a haircut?§ They speak in a whisper and caress each other*s necks. Soon the sentence, ※We subscribe to a couple rate plan to save on phone bills§ pops up. It is a commercial for a mobile telecom provider that has recently gone on air.
No great mystery there. The producers, of course, point out that the couple rate plan was worked out so that mixed-sex couples can subscribe as well.
But the commercial signals that in Korea, too, same-sex relationships are making it into the media mainstream. No longer confined to the nudge and the wink, gay characters on TV are coming out of the closet, be it Lee Kyun*s vampire in ※Hello, Francesca§ or the camp antics of Kim Nul-me in SBS late-night comedy ※People Looking for Laughter.§ Internationally, shows such as ※Queer as Folk§ and reality show ※Freshmen Diary§ lead the way, while in ※Sex and the City§ it is a given that any modern single woman needs comfortable gay friends.
On Korean terrestrial TV, attitudes have yet to change dramatically, with gay characters usually played for cheap laughs. Last May, MBC drama ※Pounding Heart§ featured singer Harisu as a transgender character, but the responses from viewers were decidedly weak.
Still, amplified, half-concealed or confidently ※out, gay lifestyles are here to stay.
For the producers of the couple rate commercial, the surprise was the lack of surprise among viewers. ※It made us think our society has changed.§ Proof positive, perhaps, that a country*s sense of respect for others has improved if it can look without aggression on sexual minorities.
(
englishnews@chosun.com )


Previous 'Gay Korea Column' at http://chinesechic.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_archive.html
and scroll to March 13 2006 post.

This ends the gay trilogy and i hope this series of posts have revealed my thoughts and opinion on this area of interest of mine as well as enlightened readers whom previously weren't aware or interested as to the current status and trends of homosexuality in Asia....will be awhile before i post again on this....comments and questions are always welcome:)P
p/s: looking forward to attending my very 1st Mardi Gras Parade come 3 March on Oxford Street, Darlinghurst...will take plenty of pics and tell u guys and gals all bout it!

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

hcpen,

You have done well in highlighting the current state of affairs when it comes to the "gay" topic.

Can you tell me your thoughts on the web page I provided in the earlier post?

http://home.messiah.edu/~chase/h/articles/rogers.htm

I don't know you you read as far as the previous origination of sexuality of the author of that page. If you haven't it is at the bottom of the page. Please do yourself a favour and read the entire page if you haven't already. I trust that you are not so biassed that you would not open yourself to the other side of the argument.

It is quite worrying that society is letting the younger generation
"readily accept their homosexual identities". What is more worrying is that articles like yours will only re-enforce this trend.

It seems to me that to a degree(correct me if I am wrong), that you are letting the "cuteness", "fashionable" factor of gays, get the better of your judgement.

I have a very good audio clip of a debate on this topic, argued by a non-christian from a totally non-christian perspective. I will send it to you.

It is definitely seen and proven that at least some gays, want to be helped and when correct help is given, there have been many success stories. I repeat, not ALL but AT LEAST SOME. Now, the type of propaganda that you quoted and condone, is taking away that opportunity to those who want help. In fact will probably convince many of those to just give up and accept it as reality. You are not doing them a favour.

We should be sending a message of acceptance, but not denying the chances of receiving help to those who want it. And glamorising the "gay" condition as something "natural and normal"? Please, where is your proof of this?

Would you would be in support of gay marriages too? And for them to have a child through IVF? To give them a chance to have their own "family"? If that is the case, the meaning of family must be redefined in every dictionary in the world. And I guess some people still insist that this is being "progressive". A child must meet emotional needs from both a father and a mother to be raised as a healthy child. Family is the fundamental building blocks of society and it is crucial that we protect this institution if we are the grow into a healthy nation. Leaders of a nation who rightly protect this for the benefit of the majority is doing the right thing. They are doing their job. I think you might actually agree with this paragraph. If you don't then, wow this world really needs help, as even a very bright individual like you has lost the true spirit of family and humanity. I hope you do agree and even if you don't now, one day you just might :) I'll send you that file I was talking about.

Anonymous said...

also see NARTH

National Association of Research & Therapy of Homosexualtiy

http://narth.com/menus/born.html

Let me know if you have any convincing evidence or research that shows that homosexuality is genetically linked. I could not find anything in the above site.

And for those who are interested in the audio clip i sent to hcpen, I found it online here Just click on "listen now".

Here is a quote from a famous gay researcher

(3) When "gay gene" researcher Dr. Dean Hamer was asked if homosexuality was rooted solely in biology, he replied:

"Absolutely not. From twin studies, we already know that half or more of the variability in sexual orientation is not inherited. Our studies try to pinpoint the genetic factors...not negate the psychosocial factors."

I have one really good audio clip which is about 20MB big and about 80 minutes long. Again, arguments based on non-chrisitian terms. Let me know if you are interested. As it will surely be some very stimulous and food for thought.

Again, if you have any materials you can suggest to me I am fully open to it too.

hcpen said...

jw: Thanks for your thoughts and comments on this issue. I'm frankly very surprised that you have so much interest in this area given ur research and lengthy replies...i will reply ur posts once i've had a chance to listen to the recording and links you've provided cos i have been busy lately and haven't read them yet...sorry for the delay:)

Anonymous said...

http://teazed.blogspot.com/

You might find this gay blog from Korea in English interesting.

Jason

Anonymous said...

Thanks for that link.

"Gaydar Australia can help you find someone in Sydney to hook up with or you can get picked up right off the street there."

I wonder what this "hook up with" would mean? Would I be wrong to think that it means for casual sex? "get picked up right off the street"?

So, no matter how nice the idea of the Mardi Gras is, like I have pointed out already, and the above re-enforces my point, and to put it crudely, it is a chance for gays to proudly announce their acceptance into society, and whats more, get together and indulge in large amounts sex, alcohol, and in some cases drugs.

Do you not see a problem with this at all? Do you advocate freedom of speech, freedom to express oneself so much that you are willing to mask one eye to the potential harmful effects on society as a whole resulting from this? Can you look at the long term picture?

It is not for the "gay" factor that I criticise the Mardi Gras, but more for the above factors. I wonder if you can say with a clear conscience that on that night there is not going to be any further contraction of HIV.

I wonder if you can convince the majority of gays that night to just hold a respectable parade, and to not indulge in any casual sex, group sex, as a way to clean up the image of gays to earn the respect of the non-gay population. Can you tell me with a straight face that you can convince them to do that? Let's aim for 50%? Can you?

If I was to say that, in the straight population, people do have casual sex, and immoral sex, but as a whole there are just as many who enjoy long term monogamous relationships (or at least try), as they realise that this is the key to long term happiness. Am I way off here? I look around my office and see many married people with kids, and those non-married who aspire to this, this is NORMAL. Now, in the gay population it is rather the exception and not the rule, that one yearns for a long term MONOGAMOUS relationship, or that any value is placed on such a relationship at all. Tell me with a straight face, please. I am not talking about 100% here of course there will be exceptions, but from my observations and studies done on their social behaviour, this IS THE RULE FOR THEM.

So, let's just tell them it's ok, just be proud of it and fight for your equal rights. We are facing low birth rates as it is already, so go on, just exacerbate the problem. We need to encourage more gays in this world, right? Oh, but you believe in the unproven fact that there is a "gay gene"? Or maybe you just don't care about the world and the directions it is heading. I think it's great and we should show our compassion for fellow human of course, but why are you so willing to compromise the basic mechanics of a healthy society in the process? I'm sure there are people who grew up with fantasies of having sex with a brother, a sister, their mother, father, or an infant, so do you let your compassion for them as humans get the better of you enough to tell them it's ok, you can't help it. When it really comes down to it, a man's genitals and a woman's genitals were designed for certain purposes, you are going along with a trend that redefines their purpose and function, for the sake of human compassion? Or what is it? you tell me. Food for thought.

Anonymous said...

Interesting post.

hcpen said...

Jason: Thanks for the link!! eeeee....hope to see more cute korean gay guys and their sexy figures..

jw: I've replied ur comments in my mardi gras post.

qushibo: Thanks for dropping by:)